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[Anselmo]: Hello! This is DeafDots,
15 October 2021.

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Bringing alerts & news reports at
intervals for all Deaf Canadians!

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[Anselmo]: With only 3 people
remaining on their board,

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they are in danger of closing down 
if one of the board members

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resigns or cannot attend 
a board meeting.

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CAD-ASC recently held its AGM and 
I am pleased to see many new faces

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join us, and I look forward 
to working with them.

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I'd like to clarify one thing - 
the 3 positions; National Youth

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Director is not our business.

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We extended to DYC, youth to 
pick someone, not CAD.

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We are waiting for 
them to pick someone.

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There is a bit of a struggle but 
hopefully it will be cleared soon.

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The other 2 positions, 
Communications Director and

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Vice-President were not filled.

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We hope to post these positions 
shortly and someone would apply

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and join. Really today we see 
many missing gaps and struggles

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among Deaf agencies 
across Canada...

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not only at LCD; DAANS 
has 3 or 4 board members.

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In the west, GVAD also 
has 3 or 4 board members.

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This struggle is going 
on across Canada.

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As founder of CDGM, we started 
slowly and grew as we recruited

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people but all positions 
aren't filled yet.

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We are still searching, still...

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it's a tough challenge finding 
good leaders who know and with

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experience and understand how 
the system works, how governance works,

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bylaws, parliamentary procedures, 
so forth, code of ethics,

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how meetings run, there are not 
many people with these

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experiences, it's hard.

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[Anselmo]: Why are Deaf 
organizations struggling

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to fill vacancies on their Boards? 
Why do we face this problem?

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The age gap is an issue, 
technology, many factors are

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involved which is why we are 
having a hard time finding

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good Deaf leaders 
across Canada.

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Many people (both Deaf and hearing) 
are really busy with their jobs

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and families so much that 
they have little spare time.

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Unfortunately a number of people 
(both Deaf and hearing) have been

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affected by the economy and / or 
the COVID pandemic.

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What that means is that people 
don't have the time or the energy

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to join any agency, 
board or committee.

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[Anselmo]: Social media plays
a role - backstabbing through

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social media. With many mainstreamed 
and not exposed to Deaf community,

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values and culture, often when they
discover their identity as a Deaf person,

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they go through stages of 
'anger', and the blaming game.

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We need a new leadership strategy 
to recruit younger generations.

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Make sure we give 
each other a chance.

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Yes, I am the leader but I delegate 
smaller duties and projects to

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give others a chance to develop 
experience and be involved in

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meetings. I have to keep 
myself open to all...

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older to younger, varied people 
with diverse backgrounds,

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life experiences 
and differences...

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I listen and learn.

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Sometimes I may advise what 
they could have done to help

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and empower them. Some people may not
understand, I take the time to

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explain and have enough 
patience to expand...

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that's true leadership, 
what it should be.

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When I was growing up as a girl, 
I had several people that I looked up

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to, many of them are now 
senior citizens and retired.

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I assume their roles to attract 
youth to join as well.

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It's a challenge attracting 
newer people, yes.

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[Anselmo]: What about attitudes? 
Are attitudes important?

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Getting involved, volunteering 
and advocating is not easy...

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I know you all have your lives 
to focus on, make income, families and

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more, but our community has needs 
as we have a lot of things...

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rights, needs and laws.

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Without volunteers on the board 
and leader, it would close down.

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It's indeed challenging 
but come and ask.

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Don't be scared or feel you can't ask, 
I don't want to look stupid.

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Don't.

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Come and ask...

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by asking, learn and grow! I look forward
to working with everyone!

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[Anselmo]: While producing this report, 
LCD announced on October 3

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that it had 
filled all positions.

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But Wissam and Kimberly are correct, 
if we want living

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standards and rights of Deaf people
to improve, we need to join and

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encourage others to support 
our Deaf leaders to fight for us.

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If we don’t support them, 
we are hurting ourselves.

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[Anselmo]: On July 28th this year, 
Shawna Joynt became

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Canadian Association 
of the Deaf (CAD)’s

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first National Indigenous 
Director (NID).

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The CAD-ASC board did not vote
on her appointment.

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It was a lengthy process over two 
months involving members of the

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Indigenous Deaf members who 
discussed and met several times.

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They made decisions on the 
process of voting and

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submitting her 
name to us.

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[Anselmo]: Do you know how many Deaf
Indigenous people in Canada?

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The exact number of Deaf Indigenous
in Canada isn’t available.

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There are a few reasons for that
- especially in the north where

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families cherish their children 
and are not always willing

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to state that their 
child is Deaf.

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Provinces have more access to 
resources for help with Deaf

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children they do recognize but 
federally, they are not recognized.

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There’s a difference.

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We are hoping this will change 
with more consciousness 

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of the needs of
Deaf Children out there.

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[Anselmo]: If Deaf Indigenous 
people are members of different

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tribes, do you all agree on general
parameters, or how do you handle

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any differences between 
tribes, if any?

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We need to understand that 
Indigenous people are varied.

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Look where they live, some live 
on reserves, some live in cities, 

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you notice their perspectives 
are different because

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it is more there 
and not there.

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For example, Deaf organizations and 
agencies interact with each other,

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have events and a lot to offer 
and usually advocate for them

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in cities. Whereas local, remote areas 
far away or live on reserves are limited.

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We need to visit them 
more and listen to their stories.

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Their journey is different 
from ours.

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Our vision may be similar, 
but we have different outlooks.

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We need to encourage, help, 
and work with them.

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They have a lot to tell, 
please listen to them.

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[Anselmo]: Do Deaf Indigenous 
people get along?

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Yes, of course we have 
disagreements and agreements

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during conversations. 
Like all of you.

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Ours has to do with treaties, food 
preparedness, gatherings, 

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who does what 
and responsibilities.

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One main thing, or goal we work 
together with is to look at the

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government and the system that 
interferes and engage with them to

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improve and change 
for the better.

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Others do the same.

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Sometimes when there is a conflict 
we deal with, it is important to

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understand each other’s borders, 
respect, be humble and patience,

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and importantly be transparent 
and come up with ideas and solutions

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and continue until 
both feel satisfied.

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We strongly believe in relationships, 
which is important

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to us and
gain trust.

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I myself encourage our committee 
to pursue their preferences and

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expertise, for example someone 
who knows about the medical wheel to

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focus on it, same for education 
making presentations and explaining

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so others understand better 
spiritualism, sage, and all

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Indigenous areas for increased 
knowledge and understanding on

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specific topics. 
I encourage it.

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During meetings, I encourage them 
to do indigenous acknowledgements,

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opening and closing ceremonies.

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I encourage people to take 
turns doing it to increase their

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confidence in themselves 
and to acknowledge them.

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Many Indigenous people keep to 
themselves and are sensitive on

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topics and find it hard 
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It is important to advocate for them 
and be patient and help them.

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[Anselmo]: What are the top 
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Deaf Indigenous 
Canadian community?

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Our primary issue or 
barrier is technology.

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Wi-Fi is not reliable and in the 
north, some do not have Wi-Fi at

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all so they have no access 
with data restrictions.

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Serious barrier.

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Support services and getting 
help without the internet.

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Language, a lot of families care 
for their children and want their

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children to be aware 
of culture and language.

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Learning ASL which the parents 
themselves do not know is an issue.

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Some are willing, some don’t.

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This is a process which we continue 
to advocate and help with.

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Yes, what Shawna mentioned, I agree, 
one more thing - a really

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important part in all, as youth, 
we need the networking, better and

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improved networking for the 
strength of our community

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to spread the word and grow.

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We need more youth, elders and 
diversity to come together to help

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our future projects, improvements 
in services and more accessibility

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equal to a Deaf person.

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The goal of our community and 
children is to provide, offer

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and teach leadership to succeed, 
for example, medicine teaching, culture

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knowledge keeper, or pursue 
any traditional paths in the present

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and future, and much more.

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This should be 
our primary goal.

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We will be proud.

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[Anselmo]: Thanks, Shawna and Paula. 
DeafDots is happy to work

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with you and collaborate with 
the Canadian Deaf Indigenous community.

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[Anselmo]: Deaf Canadians have the 
right to get an interpreter for

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their medical appointments 
or any healthcare procedure.

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Doctors and hospitals cannot 
deny your right to an interpreter.

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Nicole, do you know 
who decided that?

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[Nicole]: Yes, I asked Gary 
Malkowski who was one of the

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appellants in a 
federal case to explain.

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In 1997, the Supreme Court of Canada in 
a ruling “Eldridge v British Columbia”

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stated that the BC government 
must provide sign language

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interpreters for medical services 
at hospitals and doctor offices

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to ensure effective 
communication so that doctors

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can get proper information and 
give appropriate treatment to

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Deaf patients. In 2006, the Federal 
Court of Canada, in the Canadian

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Association of the Deaf case, 
required the Government of Canada

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must provide sign language 
interpreters for any public

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service in federal government 
programs and services.

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These two important legal decisions
- the Eldridge decision, and the

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Federal Court of Canada - Canadian 
Association of the Deaf decision -

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requires Deaf people have the 
right to sign language interpreters and

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that the federal government must 
provide interpreters for its

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public services and 
medical services.

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[Nicole]: There is no cost to Deaf 
customers to request an interpreter

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for regular or 
emergency appointments.

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The federal government provides 
funding as well as provincial and

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local governments to provide sign 
language interpreting services.

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Wavefront Accessibility 
Communications Centre provides MIS

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- medical interpreting services for 
the entire province, BC 365 days

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a year, 24 hours/7 days.

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We receive funding from 
the provincial government.

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[Nicole]: Alberta and Saskatchewan 
get provincial funding for sign

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language support including 
medical interpreting.

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In Ontario, Canadian Hearing 
Services (CHS), in their 2020

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annual report, reported getting 
$8.6 million dollars from the

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federal and provincial governments 
for general interpreting services

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throughout Ontario including 
medical interpreting.

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[Anselmo]: What about 
eastern Canada?

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[Nicole]: Nova Scotia and 
New Brunswick offers medical

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interpreting and after hours 
emergency interpreting services

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with funding from all local, 
provincial and federal governments.

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Always remember you have the right 
to request medical interpreting

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no matter where you are.

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[Anselmo]: Thanks, Nicole.

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That means we don’t have to be 
afraid to demand interpreters when

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meeting with doctors, 
nurses or hospitals.

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[Anselmo]: The Government of Canada
website lists an overview

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of federal government services 
for small businesses.

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Their website lists Business Benefits 
Finder that helps you get

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information on licensing, developing 
business plan templates,

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registration, regulations, 
incorporation and economic data.

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They also list a Canada Small 
Business Financing Program,

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regional support and steps to 
take in starting a business.

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[Anselmo]: There are services and 
programs across Canada that offer

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services to help you 
start a business.

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One organization, Community Futures 
(CF) hosted a “Business Resources

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for Entrepreneurs with Disabilities 
or Health Conditions” webinar in

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October with ASL interpreters.

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CF is a grassroots-driven program
enabling entrepreneurship and

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assisting in community 
economic development.

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[Anselmo]: DeafDots spoke with 
Susan Bater at CF who is hosting

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that webinar. A former interpreter, 
Susan manages CF’s Entrepreneurs

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with Disabilities Program which 
offers business services to people

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with disabilities or health 
conditions between Manitoba 

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and BC in
western Canada.

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She explains that EDP can provide 
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business plan development, 
business resources, 

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and access to business
loans of up to $150,000.

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You should explore what’s available 
in your own province or town.

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[Anselmo]: Who in the Deaf Community 
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In May 2020, Ontario Cultural 
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a "BizChat with 
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In July 2020, OCSD also hosted 
a Biz Chat with Rohan Smith, 

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a Deaf former restaurant 
business owner.

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My goal is to encourage 
Deaf businesses.

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I have noticed many Deaf and 
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the potential and skills, but 
they need guidance and support.

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Myself and Leah had the 
opportunity to learn the concept

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through the 
hearing community.

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We feel we can share knowledge 
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the Deaf community.

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How? Sharing our experiences.

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We want to see many Deaf and 
hard of hearing empowered to build a

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Deaf ecosystem across 
Ontario and Canada.

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In 2020, OCSD did host 
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We wanted to go to different 
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we had to 
suspend our events.

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We hope that we can resume 
BizChat to the Deaf community.

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We can't wait and are very excited 
to help other business owners

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succeed in 
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[Anselmo]: The "Workplace Accessibility 
Grant Program"

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workshop hosted by The Small Business 
BC shared information on

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financial assistance to create 
an inclusive workplace for persons

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with disabilities. When you start a 
business, you are working for

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yourself. This means you can 
seek services or funding for people

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wanting to become 
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If you want to establish your 
business, Wavefront Centre provides

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self-employment services for 
business development,

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writing a business plan, becoming 
self-employed which includes

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self-employment orientation 
and assessment, business concept

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development, business plan 
development and business launch

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and implementation.

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[Anselmo]: I understand that 
Wavefront is a WorkBC contractor.

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What is it?

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WorkBC is a provincial government 
program to provide employment

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services for people 
living in BC.

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Wavefront Centre is a WorkBC 
subcontractor providing employment

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services. WorkBC helps people 
looking for employment, analyze

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professional options, matches jobs, 
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We also help employers match with 
Deaf community skills, job search

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matching, and also help employers 
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[Anselmo]: The COVID pandemic has 
given more focus to doing business

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online which benefits Deaf 
people as it gives additional

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opportunities to launch 
their own online businesses.

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There is no reason to wait for 
help, there are help and resources

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out there to help you 
start your own business now!

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Thank you for 
watching this report.

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suggestions, please visit

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